Friday, February 01, 2008

In manilafuturesalon@ yahoogroups. com, Lei Kalina
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> Hahahha ... the report says: "Men aren't more clever or
smarter. But since they think they are, they are more confident about
their abilities. These self-beliefs, however, may be highly adaptive.
Who gets a job? A bright woman who doesn't think she's smart, or a
not-so-bright man who believes he's capable of anything? Arrogance
and hubris are not attractive qualities, but confident, self-belief
may be."
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> My take on this: "self-perfection" is looking within, and we
have all the qualities such as intelligence, wisdom, all-around
goodness ( minus the environment factors like peer factor, media
persuasion , etc) . Being smart, being wise or intelligent --- I
agree, depends much on your self-image and self-belief. Suceeding
in life and setting aside life's "hassles" -- problems at work and
lovelife, among other things --- depends much on how you handle it,
and your self-belief. If you think you're smart, whether you're
male or female, and you work on it to become smarter and wiser in
life and among other things .... that's the thing.

MrOneHundred Percent wrote:
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> Sorry guys... just got this bit from NEwsweek.com
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> PSYCHOLOGY
> He's Not as Smart as He Thinks A British researcher reports
that the male ego is often larger than his actual IQ. But you might
be surprised by what women think of men's intellect.
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> By Joan Raymond | Newsweek Web Exclusive
> Jan 23, 2008 | Updated: 5:25 p.m. ET Jan 23, 2008
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> Are men smarter than women? No. But they sure think they are. An
analysis of some 30 studies by British researcher Adrian Furnham, a
professor of psychology at University College London, shows that men
and women are fairly equal overall in terms of IQ. But women, it
seems, underestimate their own candlepower (and that of women in
general), while men overestimate theirs. Furnham talks to NEWSWEEK's
Joan Raymond about his findings and why perceived IQ matters.
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> NEWSWEEK: Many studies show that men score slightly higher in IQ
tests. Is this significant?
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> Adrian Furnham: Universally, men tend to score higher on certain
specialized skills, such as spatial awareness. In the real world,
that means they might be better at reading maps or navigating. Women
score higher in terms of language development and emotional
intelligence. But most experts agree there is no real, important
overall difference when it comes to gender and intelligence.
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> But women think they aren't as smart as men?
> That's the conundrum. What I study is "perceived intelligence, "
essentially how smart people think they are. I analyzed 30
international studies, and what I found was that women, across the
world, tend to underplay their intelligence, while men overstate it.
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> So do most men think they're Albert Einstein?
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> There certainly is a greater male ego. It's what we call the male
hubris and female humility effect. Men are more confident about their
IQ. These studies show that on average, women underestimate their IQ
scores by about five points while men overestimate their own IQs.
Since these studies were international in scope, the results were
essentially the same whether women were from Argentina, America,
Britain, Japan or Zimbabwe. Another factor affecting perception may
be distribution of IQ ... Although [men and women] are on average the
same, the people at the very top and the very bottom of the IQ bell
curve are more likely to be men. That is a pattern that we see in the
university setting, with men either being at the very top of the
class or at the bottom.
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> Do women tend to think that men are smarter than they are?
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> Surprisingly, [both] men and women perceive men being smarter
across generations. Both sexes believe that their fathers are smarter
than their mothers and grandfathers are more intelligent than their
grandmothers.
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> If there are children, [both] men and women think their sons are
brighter than their daughters.
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> Absolutely. And it is worrying in the sense that it may mean
parents send inappropriate or misleading messages to their children
about their abilities. It is also surprising since school results, at
least in Great Britain, indicate quite clearly that girls are doing
better than boys in nearly all subjects. What was interesting was
that some groups of people, both men and women, got it so wrong. Men
with average to below-average intelligence think that they are quite
clever. And very smart women think their intelligence is low.
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> Does any of this matter in the real world?
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> Men aren't more clever or smarter. But since they think they are,
they are more confident about their abilities. These self-beliefs,
however, may be highly adaptive. Who gets a job? A bright woman who
doesn't think she's smart, or a not-so-bright man who believes he's
capable of anything? Arrogance and hubris are not attractive
qualities, but confident, self-belief may be. Certainly,
underestimating abilities might hurt you. There's a good quote from
one of your countrymen, Henry Ford. He says: "Whether you believe you
can do a thing or not, you are right." And that is what is
troublesome. Beliefs may be more important than actual ability in
certain settings.
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> So women have a self-esteem problem?
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> I'm not advocating for self-esteem training and therapy. I think
that many of the self-help gurus argue incorrectly that improved self-
esteem increases performance. Helping people to perform better
increases their self esteem. Giving a kind of carte blanche to self-
esteem isn't a good idea in my mind. Rather, I think it should be
that increased performance and feedback on the causes of that
performance, ability or effort raises self-esteem. As I said, in
primary and secondary schools, girls are outperforming boys. And
where appropriate, their self-beliefs, hopefully, are increasing.
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> Do you get a lot of flack for this kind of gender research?
> I study perceived intelligence. I don't research whether gender
differences in intelligence are innate. That always sparks
controversy. But anytime you talk about intelligence and gender,
people will have strong feelings about it. Look what happened to
[Larry] Summers of Harvard [the former president of the university
was lambasted for suggesting that women are underrepresented in the
sciences at least partly due to inherent differences in intellectual
ability between the sexes]. I just let the data speak for itself.
Nonetheless, sometimes I think you have to be stupid, brave or just
plain naive to work in this area.
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